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Council told to stop tramgate fines



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Published Date:
21 May 2008
HIGHWAYS bosses in Sheffield have been ordered to stop fining motorists who drive through Hillsborough tramgates - because their signs break the rules.
The authority has lost its appeal against a ruling by National Parking Appeals Service that warnings on Middlewood Road are inadequate.

Until signs and road markings are altered, the restriction should not be enforced, the council has been told.

And it could mean council chiefs have to pay back thousands of fines to drivers caught since enforcement of the bus and tram gate began.

It is a big victory for Wisewood man Alan Bangert, one of four men who challenged penalties issued to them by Sheffield Council.

In its decision, NPAS said both Middlewood Road and Langsett Road approaches should have been clearly marked "Bus Lane" on the road surface to alert drivers of the restrictions ahead.

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Council chiefs gave a tight-lipped "no comment" when asked if they would be paying back the cash to drivers caught on camera, after losing their appeal against the initial judgement.

But they warned drivers that Hillsborough Corner would not become "a free-for-all" following the judgement and that alterations to the signs would be made quickly so the bus and tram gates conform to the rules.

Mr Bangert's Ford Mondeo was snapped by cameras three times after he mistakenly drove into the restricted area from Middlewood Road.

The married dad-of-three, disabled following an accident in a steelworks seven years ago, said paying the fines "would have been a struggle."

Mr Bangert, aged 43, said: "I am delighted. I have got the verdict. I received three penalty notices with no warning. I paid the first one and then I got two more. I asked for some common sense, but I got none."

Sheffield Council had argued vainly that the Department for Transport had seen and approved their plans - including signage - before they began enforcement.

But the tribunal's adjudicator Stephen Knapp said: "There is nothing that I have heard at the review hearing which causes me to change my opinion that the signing of the restriction on these two roads is unclear.

"My decision is that the bus gates should not be enforced until the carriageways are properly marked with the words 'Bus Lane' or a suitable variant that complies with the 2002 Regulations."

Sheffield Council has continued to enforce the restrictions, issuing fines, while waiting for the appeal judgement.

All the money collected from these fines was set aside in case it needs to be repaid.

John Mothersole, Sheffield Council's interim chief executive, said it was "a strange judgement". The council was considering taking it to a judicial review.

"We are going to reluctantly change the signs to comply with the adjudicator's review," he said. "But it is not going to be a free-for-all. My advice to everyone is that the bus gate is still a bus gate and everyone should observe it."

Asked whether previously levied fines were now valid, Mr Mothersole said: "Individuals need to come to their own view about this."

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  • Last Updated: 21 May 2008 8:57 AM
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wildnorthlands,

Sheffield 21/05/2008 09:45:08
It is outrageous that one guy with a beef can inconvenience thousands of bus and tram passengers daily. There are an enormous number of signs notifying drivers that they are about to break the law - a couple of extra ones on the road won't make any difference.
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crystal peaks man,

21/05/2008 11:18:41
Good for this driver,I hope the council will stop persecuting drivers and behave within the laws of this land.
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21/05/2008 11:51:12
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ssblue,

SHEFFIELD 21/05/2008 13:00:45
To wildnorthlands, read the whole article and you would see that Mr Bangert is a disabled driver,why you so angry? why dont you get out on your bike and stop complaining!! this would suggest that your suggestion of getting on a bike are miss judged and ill founded. We have laws still well just so if the law is such then it has to be set out to the letter of the law. i am not a car driver i have bike and get around ok how many people on bikes will use the pavement or go through a stop sign with out stopping or break a red light? the tram has done more harm than good for h.corner ask the local traders so if you catch the tram you should have more rite than a car???????? is it a race? so funny over something so small.
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shrewd,

s6 21/05/2008 13:00:55
Having to negotiate the nightmare which is now Ripley St every day. I am glad the signs have to be made more obvious at either end of the tram-gate. The council should have to pay off any fines as they did not comply with the legal requiremnets. It is their ommission.
As a local person I find the Midlewood signs are not clear, in that you have to turn up Taplin Road. I am neither selfish or short sighted or selfish for that matter.
the law says make the signs clearer so that is what the council must do.
i also feel that since the tram gate has been introduced it has actually made Hillsbro' corner more congested. As a tax payer and road tax payer i feel the council are arrogant toward car drivers.
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A&S,

Wisewood Sheffield 21/05/2008 13:39:13
To wildnorthlands, why get so personal?? Do your research and you will see that the Council have not followed rules and guidelines.Doesnt this bother you? They should be making an example by doing things right because how can they expect trust from the public if they bend the rules to suit their own agenda (getting money unfairly).

Also, when something as important as abiding by rules is such a problem for any council to adhere to, then shouldnt they themselves be accountable for their stubborn mistakes (especially when it involves taking money off people unfairly and more importantly, unjustly).

The emphasis and most important thing here is not the individual £30, it is the principle. The Council knew they were doing things wrong but they still carried on charging. This is wrong and needs putting right.

The problem here is not the issue whether a busgate/lane is needed (something obviously needs to be done in an effort to calm traffic), the issue is that the Council also have to follow guidelines rules and regulations like everyone else. Otherwise it will be a free for all and eventually who will take any notice of laws etc. Thats what laws are there for.

The Council need to repay all the drivers who were unlawfully fined, it is only right. Even if they put the right markings on the road today, the fact remains that from June/July last year, people were being unlawfully fined.
Give the money back!!!!!!!
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MuddyCoffee,

woodseats 21/05/2008 13:50:07
SSblue,
It doesn't say that Mr.Bangert is a disabled driver. It says he became disabled at work. This does not definitely mean that he has any difficulty walking or riding a bicycle or motorcycle. All these are forms of transport can go through the tram gates legally.
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Nadinho,

Sheffield 21/05/2008 15:16:05
Law is law!

Rules are rules!

If MR Bangert delibrately or accidently drives through bus and tram gates, he has to hold his hands and pay the fine!

Buses, trams, cycles and authorised vehicles are allowed through the gates!

MR Bangert doesn't drive an authorised vehicle!

Authorised vehicles are ambulances, doctors car, urgent blood, fire engines and police!

not pig headed motorists, who think they can drive anywhere they like!
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A&S,

Wisewood, Sheffield 21/05/2008 16:04:31
Nadinho: The fact remains that the Council have broken laws with the unlawful enforcement because of their own ignorance and indifference to the laws of this land.

They cannot and should not break these laws or any laws for that matter, purely to extort revenue from the unsuspecting drivers.

Mr Bangert has no problem with paying a fine if he is in the wrong, but the council should do the same and compensate the people affected, pronto.

Mr Bangert is also a very careful, considerate driver who does abide by the laws of the land but he does have a problem with an authority that lies and cheats its way into our pockets and steals what it can get away with.

Mr Bangert, also never drove along that particular stretch of road again following the receipt of the PCN's (he had respect enough for the law not to do it again but to challenge the enforcement in the proper, adult way, even if he knew the law wasnt being adhered to properly by the Council.

A wrong is a wrong and the council should do the decent thing and pay up.

By the way, even if the council do remedy the signage, they will still get it wrong because the road is not wide enough, hence they will still be breaking the law.
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